A Little Bit from me...
This is one of my dialogue about Islam with my hostmom.
I'm definitely a human, so i definitely have a lot of mistakes. So, please tell me what things that i explain not in the way it should be, and i'll clarify it to my hostmom.
This is based on my memory, so it has a little bit modification, because i have a limited memory.haha..:D
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My host mom and I take our dog for a walk in one evening..
Before this part of dialogue, we talked about George W Bush, which led us to this dialogue..
Me : Ya, a lot of Indonesian, and Muslim country's people don't like USA because George W Bush. Not exactly to him personally, but his action, invading Moslem's country, and even support Israel further to invade Palestine. I do know that not all US's citizen/people bad, and neither thinks that war is the best way to solve the problem, but other people might be think differently.
Mom : Ya, it's called stereotype. I don't think he is that bad, but i also don't think he is good. But the point is, your people, and Moslems, see Americans through him,and you know, his image is the war of Afganistan and Iraq.
Me : Ya, actually that also happen with Islam. Islam is not terrorist, at all. It doesn't even make sense that there are people who say that Islam is terrorism. I'm not trying to say that Mr. Bush is kinda those people, but it looks like he related Moslem with terrorist. It is not like that, because the terrorist, might be a moslem, but it's not the real moslem. They are a small amount of Moslem, that see the God's rule, the God's order in the wrong way. You know, i'm sorry, but i think there are also people in other religion, maybe yours, that do some terrible terrorism things, but there aren't people think about their religion is related to their action. So does moslem, actually. Other Moslem, except them, is absolutely have no idea about doing those terrible things. We don't even like the way they do it, just like your people don't like the way Bush do his war. I personally feel sorry for them (the terrorist), because they only make Islam even worse in world's opinion. And they think, they do the God's order. That is pathetic, i think.
Mom : Ya, absolutely. We are just like that. We don't even like war. I mean, i'm not opposing against George Bush, but i personally don't like Iraq war, Afganistan war, and Israel war. And a lot of US's people don't like that too, i belief.
Me : Ya, that's why i'm here. My duty, as an exchange student, to bring an understanding between us, between the two world. People won't be really understand what is US's people thought before they got here, and they hear, see, and feel your (US people) thought. And your people also, i don't think you will be understand what we feel about US action to Moslem countries, unless you hear it from the real people who live in Moslem countries, just like me.
Mom : You're absolutely right, Pandu. That is a really good point. ---i forget this part-
By the way, did you hear about the death of the terrorist in Indonesia? I saw the news on internet.
Me : Oh yeah. I know that. Ya, that person -the terrorist- is kinda the leader of the terrorist organization in Indonesia, which has been chased by the police for years. Well, he isn't really Indonesian, he is Malaysian, but he is the one who arranged many bomb tragedy in Indonesia. He is not kinda people who is really smart and make the bomb, or whatever. But he is the one who have the skill to recruit the squad. You know, brainwashing, kinda hypnotic, or whatever. He is really good in that, as he could make people have enough bravery to do the suicide bomb.
Mom : Wow, that's kinda creepy, rite? Thank god he has already dead.
Me : Ya. There is a lot of awesome people in the terrorism organization. The bomb maker, for example. I have read an article about them. It was said there, they even can make a bunch of sugar became a bomb. Not just sugar, of course, but with additional compound. Dr. Azahari, which is the leader in this matter, can determine how much the ingredients/component should be provided to demolish a building by just see the building. And he can make the new recruitments people near as good as him just by several months.
They are smart people.Brilliant. I believe they are also have read and learned about Islam more than I did, more than many people did. That's what we, the others Moslem always wonder, how can they even think to do those terrible things, with those smart brain? In my opinion, they have read far, but not far enough too learn what is the God's order is. They stop in the middle, and didn't finish, so they didn't get the real message.
You know the word 'jihad' right, Mom? I think you said that to me in the other day.
Mom : Ya, i know that.
Me : The terrorist, all they think about jihad is war. For them, jihad only means to kill people whom we called 'kafir', which is people who are not moslem. And for them, the only way to do the God's order is to kill them, whatever it takes. Even if it will take their life, even if it will take another Moslem's life. They even kill Moslem,in some of their action. And the worst part is, they think that they did the God's order. They think they will go to heaven by doing that.
And the fact is not like that, at all.
'Jihad' itself, have a very wide range definition. It means struggle or do the good things in God's way. People who did jihad will go to the heaven straightly. After death, in our belief, our good deeds/worships and sins will be counted. And if you did more good deeds you'll go to heaven, and if you did more sins, you'll go to hell. It is actually a little bit more others things that will affect the counting, but it's a little bit complicated, i'll tell you later. The people who did jihad, will go straightly to the heaven, without go to this thing first.
Mom : ah, interesting.
Me :You know, mothers, if they die in the birth process, they also did jihad. They will go to heaven straightly.
Mom : Oh really? That's interesting. I have never been heard that. I don't think other people know that too.
Me : Ya, there are a lot of things that are counted as jihad. Another example, if you study to get knowledge, that also jihad. If you killed or died in the way to reach your school, or study, it's count as jihad. I'm not pretty sure about this, but i think it's true. I'll look for it later and tell you.
Mom : Prophet Muhammad Saw. actually is peace-lover. He always told his army to not harm innocent people, not harm the people who doesn't fight back. Fighting, war, killing kafir people, is not the only way to do jihad. Killing innocent kafir people even isn't counted as jihad, at all. Prophet Muhammad saw always taught that the enemy is the people who fight back. In the history, when his army entered Mecca, which is already weaken and cannot fight against his army, he said that to his army before entering Mecca. They are not allowed to kill or harm people who not fight back.
Mom : wow, that's interesting. I don't know that before. You should talk to people about that, Pandu. It is a very good fact. We should talk about it more.
--we have already reached our home again--
Me : Okay mom. Thank you, it was a very good walk. I'm glad i went with you.
Mom : Oh, good. I'm glad if you happy, then!!
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End..
As i said before, i definitely made a lot of mistakes, but i don't know what are them.
So please tell me, i won't be angry or whatever. I will be very happy..:D
The point i learn from this conversation is, that actually both the side (Moslem countries and US) think they know what the people on the other side think about themselves. And that's not 100% true.
Moslem countries people think that US people think that Moslem countries are terrorist (confusing, huh). But they don't. I mean, most of them don't.
US's people think that Moslem countries people hate US. Well, yes, we might do. But it is because we don't know what the fact. We hate their action, not them. Once again, most of us, i believe.
So the point is, all of this chaos happens because misunderstanding.
And you know what the best part is?
that's what actually i, and thousands exchange students, are working on...:D
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Lagi-lagi, postingan beberapa bulan yang lalu...:D
I'm definitely a human, so i definitely have a lot of mistakes. So, please tell me what things that i explain not in the way it should be, and i'll clarify it to my hostmom.
This is based on my memory, so it has a little bit modification, because i have a limited memory.haha..:D
--------------------------
My host mom and I take our dog for a walk in one evening..
Before this part of dialogue, we talked about George W Bush, which led us to this dialogue..
Me : Ya, a lot of Indonesian, and Muslim country's people don't like USA because George W Bush. Not exactly to him personally, but his action, invading Moslem's country, and even support Israel further to invade Palestine. I do know that not all US's citizen/people bad, and neither thinks that war is the best way to solve the problem, but other people might be think differently.
Mom : Ya, it's called stereotype. I don't think he is that bad, but i also don't think he is good. But the point is, your people, and Moslems, see Americans through him,and you know, his image is the war of Afganistan and Iraq.
Me : Ya, actually that also happen with Islam. Islam is not terrorist, at all. It doesn't even make sense that there are people who say that Islam is terrorism. I'm not trying to say that Mr. Bush is kinda those people, but it looks like he related Moslem with terrorist. It is not like that, because the terrorist, might be a moslem, but it's not the real moslem. They are a small amount of Moslem, that see the God's rule, the God's order in the wrong way. You know, i'm sorry, but i think there are also people in other religion, maybe yours, that do some terrible terrorism things, but there aren't people think about their religion is related to their action. So does moslem, actually. Other Moslem, except them, is absolutely have no idea about doing those terrible things. We don't even like the way they do it, just like your people don't like the way Bush do his war. I personally feel sorry for them (the terrorist), because they only make Islam even worse in world's opinion. And they think, they do the God's order. That is pathetic, i think.
Mom : Ya, absolutely. We are just like that. We don't even like war. I mean, i'm not opposing against George Bush, but i personally don't like Iraq war, Afganistan war, and Israel war. And a lot of US's people don't like that too, i belief.
Me : Ya, that's why i'm here. My duty, as an exchange student, to bring an understanding between us, between the two world. People won't be really understand what is US's people thought before they got here, and they hear, see, and feel your (US people) thought. And your people also, i don't think you will be understand what we feel about US action to Moslem countries, unless you hear it from the real people who live in Moslem countries, just like me.
Mom : You're absolutely right, Pandu. That is a really good point. ---i forget this part-
By the way, did you hear about the death of the terrorist in Indonesia? I saw the news on internet.
Me : Oh yeah. I know that. Ya, that person -the terrorist- is kinda the leader of the terrorist organization in Indonesia, which has been chased by the police for years. Well, he isn't really Indonesian, he is Malaysian, but he is the one who arranged many bomb tragedy in Indonesia. He is not kinda people who is really smart and make the bomb, or whatever. But he is the one who have the skill to recruit the squad. You know, brainwashing, kinda hypnotic, or whatever. He is really good in that, as he could make people have enough bravery to do the suicide bomb.
Mom : Wow, that's kinda creepy, rite? Thank god he has already dead.
Me : Ya. There is a lot of awesome people in the terrorism organization. The bomb maker, for example. I have read an article about them. It was said there, they even can make a bunch of sugar became a bomb. Not just sugar, of course, but with additional compound. Dr. Azahari, which is the leader in this matter, can determine how much the ingredients/component should be provided to demolish a building by just see the building. And he can make the new recruitments people near as good as him just by several months.
They are smart people.Brilliant. I believe they are also have read and learned about Islam more than I did, more than many people did. That's what we, the others Moslem always wonder, how can they even think to do those terrible things, with those smart brain? In my opinion, they have read far, but not far enough too learn what is the God's order is. They stop in the middle, and didn't finish, so they didn't get the real message.
You know the word 'jihad' right, Mom? I think you said that to me in the other day.
Mom : Ya, i know that.
Me : The terrorist, all they think about jihad is war. For them, jihad only means to kill people whom we called 'kafir', which is people who are not moslem. And for them, the only way to do the God's order is to kill them, whatever it takes. Even if it will take their life, even if it will take another Moslem's life. They even kill Moslem,in some of their action. And the worst part is, they think that they did the God's order. They think they will go to heaven by doing that.
And the fact is not like that, at all.
'Jihad' itself, have a very wide range definition. It means struggle or do the good things in God's way. People who did jihad will go to the heaven straightly. After death, in our belief, our good deeds/worships and sins will be counted. And if you did more good deeds you'll go to heaven, and if you did more sins, you'll go to hell. It is actually a little bit more others things that will affect the counting, but it's a little bit complicated, i'll tell you later. The people who did jihad, will go straightly to the heaven, without go to this thing first.
Mom : ah, interesting.
Me :You know, mothers, if they die in the birth process, they also did jihad. They will go to heaven straightly.
Mom : Oh really? That's interesting. I have never been heard that. I don't think other people know that too.
Me : Ya, there are a lot of things that are counted as jihad. Another example, if you study to get knowledge, that also jihad. If you killed or died in the way to reach your school, or study, it's count as jihad. I'm not pretty sure about this, but i think it's true. I'll look for it later and tell you.
Mom : Prophet Muhammad Saw. actually is peace-lover. He always told his army to not harm innocent people, not harm the people who doesn't fight back. Fighting, war, killing kafir people, is not the only way to do jihad. Killing innocent kafir people even isn't counted as jihad, at all. Prophet Muhammad saw always taught that the enemy is the people who fight back. In the history, when his army entered Mecca, which is already weaken and cannot fight against his army, he said that to his army before entering Mecca. They are not allowed to kill or harm people who not fight back.
Mom : wow, that's interesting. I don't know that before. You should talk to people about that, Pandu. It is a very good fact. We should talk about it more.
--we have already reached our home again--
Me : Okay mom. Thank you, it was a very good walk. I'm glad i went with you.
Mom : Oh, good. I'm glad if you happy, then!!
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End..
As i said before, i definitely made a lot of mistakes, but i don't know what are them.
So please tell me, i won't be angry or whatever. I will be very happy..:D
The point i learn from this conversation is, that actually both the side (Moslem countries and US) think they know what the people on the other side think about themselves. And that's not 100% true.
Moslem countries people think that US people think that Moslem countries are terrorist (confusing, huh). But they don't. I mean, most of them don't.
US's people think that Moslem countries people hate US. Well, yes, we might do. But it is because we don't know what the fact. We hate their action, not them. Once again, most of us, i believe.
So the point is, all of this chaos happens because misunderstanding.
And you know what the best part is?
that's what actually i, and thousands exchange students, are working on...:D
*********************
Lagi-lagi, postingan beberapa bulan yang lalu...:D
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